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DETROIT FREE PRESS
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900418
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Wednesday, April 18, 1990
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METRO FINAL
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SPT
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1D
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Chart;Photo WILLIAM ARCHIE
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:
ScottieWood in action: Scott Hastings (left) and David
Greenwood, at the end of the Pistons' bench, have the best
seats in the house for hamming it up. It keeps them sane.
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MITCH ALBOM
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Copyright (c) 1990, Detroit Free Press
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BENCH BUDDIES
PISTONS' HASTINGS, GREENWOOD PLAY AT NOT PLAYING
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"Everything we do is insane. It keeps us sane."

      -- Scott Hastings, philosopher

  So where's the popcorn?"
  "Huh?"
  "The popcorn. Don't you know the rules?"
  "Yeah. Any fan sitting in that  seat has to buy us popcorn. And beer."
  "But . . . the game is going on!"
  "We know that."
  "Wait a minute. . . . You guys eat during a game?"
  "Of course."
  "When else?"
  "Are  you serious?"
  "We're serious."
  "And we're hungry. Get going."
  Grab a sleeping bag. Fill the canteen. We are heading for The End Of The
Bench. Which isn't exactly The End Of The World. It's worse. Even Columbus
never looked for the End Of The Bench. If he did, this is what he would have
found: Scott Hastings and David Greenwood, ordering popcorn.
  Not that they eat it. Oh, once,  against the Knicks, Hastings, after
countless nights of sitting, shoes tied, jacket on, and never playing, finally
decided to sneak a handful. "And a minute later," he says, "when the kernels
were still  back in my wisdom teeth, and I'm trying to pick them out with my
tongue, I hear Chuck Daly yell,  'SCOTT! SCOTT! GET BILL. GO GUARD PATRICK!' "
  "You must have panicked," I say.
  "No, I was happy  to get in. And athletes are pretty superstitious. So we
figure from now on, we should eat popcorn every game."
  "Right," Greenwood says. "Popcorn. Good idea."
  Welcome to the END OF THE BENCH. Scott  Hastings and David Greenwood. They
come out with the Pistons, night after night, race through lay-up lines . . .
and sit. And sit. And sit. Occasionally, they get into the action, for a pass,
or a free throw, or three minutes' worth of garbage time. "But basically,"
they say, "our job is to get stiff for two hours." They squirm, they scream at
refs, they make up jokes, they check out the fan  in the  fourth row. They
order popcorn.
  "Does it ever get so boring you run out of ideas?" I ask.
  "The last Charlotte game," Hastings says.
  "Yeah," Greenwood says, "I looked over and you were  all foggy eyed. I
yelled, 'SCOTTIE! SNAP OUT OF IT!' "
  "Thanks, man," Hastings says.  "I almost lost it that night."
  This is the story of two men who have decided if you can't join 'em, joke
'em. Other stories have been written about the last guys on the bench.
Usually, they carry quotes such as: "I'm ready if the coach needs me. I don't
mind waiting." Very nice. Very sweet. Complete bull.  This is the real story.
A world where boredom is the enemy, where humor is essential, where a  "hello"
from the head coach is a special occasion. A world where you rush to catch the
bus because it  might  leave without you. Sitting? Watching? Night after
night, without breaking a sweat? Who in his  right mind wants to be one of the
last two players off the NBA bench? It's grueling. It's frustrating.
  And after careful study, Hastings and Greenwood have concluded there is
only one way to avoid going nuts.
  Go nuts.
DAVE & SCOTTIE'S HOW TO AVOID
BOREDOM, IDEA NO. 87: TAKE A LAP
  HASTINGS:  We got the 20-second time-out down to a science.
  GREENWOOD: Yeah. As soon as it's called, we get up and try to circle the
team while patting each of the guys on the butt --
  HASTINGS:  -- and get  back to our seats before the buzzer sounds.
 GREENWOOD: One lap.
 HASTINGS: One lap.
 GREENWOOD: You can make it in just under 20 seconds.
 HASTINGS: Of course if you stop to say something, it takes longer.
 GREENWOOD: Yeah. Usually you can only say, "Good job," and move on.
  Now, let's get something straight right from the start: Nothing Hastings
and Greenwood do is meant to take away from the team. They root. They holler.
They want to win just like the other guys. Why else would they go through all
this sitting?
  But, yes, there are times they scream obscenities at the ref for a bad
call, and, then, the instant the ref turns their way, they spin their heads
toward the stands and go, "Who said that?"
  And, yes, there are times when, for want of something better to do during
the game, they check what their wives are wearing:
  "Say, Dave, Joyce looks real good tonight."
  "Purple skirt. Got it for her last year."
  There is the little dance they do to the warm-up song,  "You Can Call Me
Al" by Paul Simon. ("Sort of a Temptations thing," Hastings says.) And there
are the discussions they get into with the fans, who often sit  inches from
their end of the bench.
  "This  one time in Dallas, a woman got all upset over one of our players
cursing," Greenwood says. "So Scottie decided to talk to her."
  "Yeah," Hastings says, "I asked,  'What is a dirty word really? I  mean,
aren't all words  basically clean?' "
  "After a while, he convinced her."
  "Maybe I just confused her."
  Maybe these two should go on the road. Live from Detroit, it's . . .
ScottieWood!  You ask how these guys can get away with all this stuff? Have
you ever tried reaching the top of your profession -- and then just watching?
The distance between stardom and trivia is just a few yards  on the NBA bench,
but those few yards can feel like a black hole. It was into this breach  that
Greenwood, 32, and Hastings, 29, tumbled this season, one a former first-round
draft pick with a long career on losing teams, the other a stringy-haired
veteran with a lanky body and Jay Leno's sense of humor. Unlike many 11th and
12th men, they were not rookies, they were not kids all starry- eyed and
"happy  to be here." No. They were veterans who knew better. They grew
friendly. Close.
  Now they are Martin and Lewis.
 
DAVE AND SCOTTIE
TALK ABOUT FEAR
 
  GREENWOOD: Unlike some other bench guys,  we never root for the starters
to get in foul trouble.
  HASTINGS: Yeah, because our biggest fear is that the starters will all
foul out and they'll actually use Vinnie Johnson at power forward before  they
use us.
  GREENWOOD: Who needs that kind of embarrassment?
  HASTINGS: Really.
  Of course, we might have seen this coming with Hastings. Wasn't he the
Atlanta Hawk who once slapped high-fives  with owner Ted Turner after sinking
a three-pointer? Wasn't he the guy who wrote a column for the Miami Herald
last year as a player for the expansion Heat? Didn't he once suggest the
Heat's  losing  streak could be solved with three easy steps: 1) Keep working
hard. 2) Pick a fight with every opponent averaging more than 20 points. 3)
Trade for Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and Karl Malone.
 Hastings, 6-feet-10, is a Huck Finn face stuck on a giant scarecrow body. If
he can't make you laugh, you're medically dead. You could picture him in
overalls, steering a raft down the Mississippi. Of  course, he'd be playing
Nintendo at the same time. What do you expect from a man who comes from
Independence, Kansas?
  They call guys like Hastings "free spirits" -- usually right before they
call them "free agents." That's what he was last July. After stints with New
York, Atlanta and Miami, he signed with the Pistons.
  Greenwood came a few months later. He, too, was a free agent, and was
coveted by several teams. But, at 32, a new team wasn't enough. He wanted a
ring. Coming out of college, he was a star, the second player taken in the
entire 1979 draft. Unfortunately, the first was  Magic Johnson, who went to
Greenwood's desired team, the Lakers. Greenwood went to Chicago. He suffered
there until the arrival of a kid named Michael Jordan -- then the Bulls traded
him to San Antonio.  He suffered there waiting for a kid named David Robinson
-- then the Spurs traded him to Denver. Timing? You want to talk timing? David
Greenwood had the timing of the coyote in the Road Runner cartoons.
  "I figured Detroit could use me, since they had just lost Rick Mahorn," he
says. So he signed in October. A one-year deal. A slow training camp hampered
him. Then the improved play of James Edwards,  John Salley and Dennis Rodman
left little room for his 6-foot-10 presence.
  Suddenly, the former hero of UCLA found himself in the last seat on the
Detroit bench. What? "I said to Scottie, 'I'm not used to this, man. If you
ever look over at me  and see me losing it, you gotta help me, OK?' "
  Scottie nodded OK. He knew just what to do.
DAVE AND SCOTTIE'S
HOW TO FIGHT BOREDOM,
IDEA NO. 128:  CHEW A TOWEL
  GREENWOOD: Scottie has this thing during the game where he just chews the
end of a towel until he can pull a string out between his teeth.
  HASTINGS: I used to leave it hanging there,  just to hear people yell, "Hey,
you got a string hanging from your mouth!"
  GREENWOOD: Then one day he started blowing them onto people.
  HASTINGS: They're just little threads. Sometimes James Edwards will come
over, and he'll be all sweaty. I'll blow one at him.
  GREENWOOD: And it sticks.
  HASTINGS: Yeah. It's pretty cool.
  Now, I know what you're thinking. Goodness. All that  money and so little
work and these fellows are having . . . fun? Well, before you condemn it,
remember that these fellows, despite their spots on the bench, are still
better than 97 percent of the basketball  players on this planet. That's the
crazy thing about the NBA. You take a guy who was king of his high school,
prince of his college, and, suddenly, in the pros, he's the mop-up man. "I
don't care if  you're Mr. Optimist of the world," Hastings says, in a rare
serious moment. "Nobody can sit there and watch his job being done by someone
else and feel like he's contributing."
  "I never used to think  about bench guys when I was a starter," Greenwood
adds. "I've gained new respect. It's one of the hardest things to do. I really
believe guys sitting would give up some money for the chance to play.
  "And garbage time doesn't cut it. I'll be honest with you. Going into a
game with 30 seconds left and a 35-point lead -- that's not playing
basketball. It's almost like an insult. That's like saying  the guy ahead of
you can't last another 30 seconds, so you get in there. Heck. We have a better
chance of getting injured coming in cold than the guys who were already
playing.
  "Garbage time is a  lose-lose situation. If you play well, they say, 'Aw, it
was just against the other team's scrubs.' If you make a mistake,  they say,
'See? That's why we can't play him.' "
  Hastings listens. He  nods. "Last month, I went into a game with 12.8
seconds left and came out with 11.6 left." "Amazing," Greenwood says.
  "Yeah. I got what we call a trillion."
  A trillion? "Yeah. That's when the  box score reads: '1 minute played,
followed by a row of 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0.' I got lots of those."
DAVE AND SCOTTIE ANSWER
THE QUESTION: WHO ARE WE?
  GREENWOOD: Honest now, Scottie, when was the  last time a coach came up and
said, "Hey, how you doing? How's your wife and kids?"
  HASTINGS: Never!
  GREENWOOD: See? We do not exist.
  HASTINGS: Right. We are like the twins that the family hides in the
basement.
  GREENWOOD: We are like professional blackboards; there's nothing there.
  HASTINGS: We are like the insurance policy that you get when you're first
married--
  GREENWOOD:  -- and then you stick it in the attic --
  HASTINGS: -- and 40 years later you dust it off and say, "HEY, HONEY, LOOK
WHAT I FOUND! IT'S DAVE AND SCOTT!"
  Which is not to say they are bitter.  Oh, sure, they want to play. And
maybe they wish the coach would feel what they feel. But their enthusiasm for
teammates is almost legendary. Joe Dumars, during his recent injury, spent the
first few games sitting amid the Hastings-Greenwood show. "You guys are too
into it for me, man," he said finally, moving back uptown. "I can't believe
how much you yell!"
  Often times, when a Piston is having  a bad stretch, he will come to the
bench and get an earful from  Daly. Then he'll wander to Hastings and
Greenwood, who he knows have been watching. "James, you drove the baseline the
last five times. Go to the middle next time," they'll whisper. "Salley, stop
thinking so much and just go up with it. . . ."
  Often, the advice is good. And when the guy goes  out and sinks a basket,
he turns  to  Greenwood and Hastings and smiles.  Let's face it. Sitting on
the bench makes you a keen observer.
  But, mostly, sitting on the bench just leaves you sitting on the bench.
Sometimes, even the jokes  can be painful. There was the time when Hastings
and Greenwood were giving a verbal lashing to referee Darell Garretson.
Finally, Garretson turned and said, "Hey, you getting in the game tonight,
Greenwood?"
  Ouch.
  There was the time when Hastings was a few seconds late getting back to
the locker room. The Pistons have a tradition after every game of huddling
together, putting their hands in, and  giving a word of togetherness. By the
time Hastings opened the door, it was finished. They had forgotten him.
  "That must have hurt," I say.
  "Yeah," Hastings admits. "But me and Dave just put  our hands together and
went 'YeeeaaaAAAH!' You know, our own thing."
  The truth is, it's not easy, this life of understudy. It's dull and it's
agonizing and you always feel you should be doing more.  Especially when
you've put in your time in the league. But you can swallow life's lemons or
you can turn them into lemonade. Hastings and Greenwood go for the laughs.
  "Guys on the team ask us why  we're cheering so much," Greenwood says. "But
I say, 'Wait a minute. I didn't sit on this bench all year so we can lose the
championship! Are you kidding? Are you crazy? I WANT A RING!' "
  He turns  to Hastings. "And he wants a Porsche 928."
  And on they go. If the Pistons do indeed repeat as NBA champions, their
pine ride will have been worthwhile. If not, about all they have to show for
this  most unusual season -- besides a lot of "trillions" -- is their
friendship. Actually, it's one of the nicer things about the NBA.
  "We have grown pretty close, haven't we?" Greenwood says.
  "Yeah,"  Hastings echoes. "Of course, 10 years from now when Dave is
living on the street somewhere in a cardboard box and I'm living in Buckhead,
Ga., I don't know if we'll still reach out and touch each other.  . . ."
  If you can't join 'em, joke 'em. Live from Detroit, it's ScottieWood! By
the way, should you go to a Pistons game and sit alongside these two and they
turn and ask you for the popcorn, you  can take it from me. They're only
kidding.
  Now, about the beer. . . .
COMIC RELIEVERS
David Greenwood
* BORN: May 27, 1957, at Lynwood, Calif.
* FIGURES: Age 32, 6-feet-9, 225 pounds.
* COLLEGE:  UCLA. Averaged 19.9 points and 10.3 rebounds as a senior.
* PRO: Drafted by Chicago in first round, 1979 (second overall, after Magic
Johnson). . . . All-Rookie team, 1980. . . . Traded to San Antonio  for George
Gervin, 1985. . . . Traded with Darwin Cook to Denver for Jay Vincent and
Calvin Natt, 1989. . . . Signed by Pistons as free agent, 1989.
YR  TEAM    GP  FG pct  FT pct  REB  PTS
80  Chicago  82  .474  .810  9.4  16.3
81  Chicago  82  .486  .748  8.8  14.4
82  Chicago  82  .473  .825  9.6  14.6
83  Chicago  79  .455  .708  9.7  10.0
84  Chicago  78  .490  .737  10.1  12.2
85  Chicago  61  .458  .713  6.4  6.1
86  S. Antonio  68  .510  .772  7.8  7.9
87  S. Antonio  79  .513  .785  9.9  11.6
88  S. Antonio  45  .460  .748  6.7  8.6
89  S.A.-Den.  67  .423  .750  6.0  7.0
90  Detroit  35  .440  .552  2.1  1.7
11  YEARS    758  .477  .766  8.3  10.8
Scott Hastings
* BORN: June 3, 1960, at Independence, Kan.
* FIGURES: Age 29, 6-feet-10, 235 pounds.
* COLLEGE: Arkansas. Averaged 18.6 points and  6.0 rebounds as a senior.
* PRO: Drafted by New York in second round, 1982 (29th overall). . . . Traded
with cash to Atlanta for Rory Sparrow, 1983. . . . Selected by Miami in
expansion draft, 1988. . . . Signed by Pistons as free agent, 1989.
YR  TEAM   GP  FG pct  FT pct  REB  PTS
83  N.Y.-Atl.  31  .342  .550  1.3  1.2
84  Atlanta  68  .468  .788  3.9  4.5
85  Atlanta  64  .473  .778  2.5  3.8
86  Atlanta  62  .409  .857  2.0  3.1
87  Atlanta  40  .338  .793  1.8  1.8
88  Atlanta  55  .488  .926  1.8  2.0
89  Miami   75  .436  .850  3.1  5.1
90  Detroit  40  .303  .864  2.1
8 YEARS    435  .436  .813  2.4  3.2
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STATISTIC; COMPARISON; SCOTT HASTINGS; DAVID GREENWOOD; BASKETBALL;DPISTONS;Pistons
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